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hey guys how's it going welcome back to

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the disclosure team youtube channel this

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is something i've been looking forward

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to for quite some time

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um i'm reconnecting with with an old

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friend let's say so

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without further ado please let me

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introduce you to my good friend tyler

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serradnik

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tyler did i say that correct you said it

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just fine vinny thanks cool but listen

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guys we also and this is an absolute

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treat and a bonus i mean i cannot thank

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this gentleman enough but please welcome

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mr mark sims

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hello mark

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hi how are you i'm i'm incredible thank

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you so much for for doing this and

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joining us tonight both of you guys um

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thank you so much absolutely

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yeah

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it's a real pleasure thank you vinnie

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for having us no it's the the honor and

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pleasure is all mine so for everybody

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watching this whether it be live now or

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in the future myself and tyler we've

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connected in the past through our

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instagram channels tyler at contact tour

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um and tyler and mark i've been doing a

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lot of work and you've probably all

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heard of it because you know who hasn't

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is the uh the contact

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convergence is that right 2021

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the the new uh harmonic convergence that

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we did last year so we're uh we're we're

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rebranding it slightly and that's

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because we are doing this virtually on a

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that is called the making contact campus

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so we'll be talking about this more of

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any

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i'm so excited i've seen it for what

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past week or two and

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seen tyler with a few behind the scenes

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things and it's just building that that

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excitement it really is you know and

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this is a topic that i i think is gonna

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start becoming bigger and bigger and

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bigger in the coming months when it

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comes to the whole uap subject to be

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honest you know i've said this to to my

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my colleagues you know i don't call them

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followers i call them colleagues um that

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my angle is shifting and starting to

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shift more towards looking into

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consciousness and contact and stuff and

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i think we said this just before we came

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on that i've been trying to fill this

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little gray area in my research and

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stuff and now i think i'm

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finally hitting that direction so

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yeah thank you guys because it's kind of

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down to you

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so well it's all of us it's it's the

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entire community

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yeah i mean that's a humble thing to say

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tyler but i think in all honesty for me

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you really did start me on this path

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when we started doing some live

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instagram chats together and that so

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let's start with you then tyler like

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brother it's so good to see you man we

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we missed you and i mean we like the

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whole community

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so listen you're back you're bigger and

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stronger than ever man so

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like what's happening man talk to us

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it's been

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pleasure and the honor of connecting

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with two of my idols that i've been

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following for a long time and one of

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them is down here in the in the

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interview mark sims and the other is

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daniel sheehan and i've been

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researching and studying and

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diligently going through their

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available materials and their work and

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their and all the projects and

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initiatives that they've done over the

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years and they've really been

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just pillars of inspiration for myself

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personally

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and for contact tour as an organization

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and a community so

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we just connected only two weeks ago

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mark i think at this point in person

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and it's been

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an incredible synergy of co-creation and

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collaboration with not just mark and dan

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dan but the entire team that's behind

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the scenes making the uh the convergence

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manifest and coming to fruition it's

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just been an absolute pleasure working

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with everybody

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and uh

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yeah i had to take about a month off for

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some personal r r because i've been

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days a week

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for for two years and it finally caught

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up with me and i just i had to honor

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myself and give myself a break and

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really uh come back into a more

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introspective state of being and

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reassess and re-evaluate and realign my

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intentions for contact tour and why are

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we doing this and what's the end goal

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and what's the vision on the far horizon

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and during this time that i

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stepped away from social media we didn't

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stop i mean we were still working on

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these projects and we were making things

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uh come together and we were closing

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um closing in these these doors

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i'm really excited to finally share with

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everybody because i just got the word a

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few a few moments ago through through

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my phone that contact tour is actually

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going to have a show

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travel channel

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tyler that's awesome man

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that is so cool i have it you deserve it

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works and i really have to thank first

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and foremost my very close and dear

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friend tim cash who mark just got

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introduced to yesterday we had a really

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nice long conversation with tim cash and

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behind the scenes being extremely

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instrumental in this entire process of

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getting touch with the networks and

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we we worked on this

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uh this pitch sizzle for three months

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and we sent it out to all these

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executives and we didn't hear anything

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back and we thought that it was going to

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be an absolute dead end well at least we

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tried at least we tried and then very

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last minute not even a week and a half

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away from them wanting to film they

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reached out to us and said we want to

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move forward with this so

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contact tour is going to be

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uh for the time being being just a pilot

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and i'm excited to see how it manifests

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in the future so now we're going to be

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reaching millions of people about making

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contact and initiating

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bilateral communications with non-human

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intelligences that are extraterrestrial

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so uh it's it's an honor but that's

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where i've been and uh

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i'm just really happy to be back i'm

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excited and mark is

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is working on incredible projects right

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now

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incredible things and uh i'll leave it

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at that i'll know

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i appreciate that update and like i said

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it is so good to have you back brother

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um mark let's move on to you and we've

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already got a question christopher thank

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you so much for the five dollar donation

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now this is asking mark what taj bah am

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i pronouncing that correct yes yeah so

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what does tesbar think of disclosure at

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the moment and if mass contacts will

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happen anytime soon but maybe before we

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answer the question mark or before you

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answer the question

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would you mind just giving us a little

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rewind on who tesbar is and how you

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yeah the being and things like that i'd

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love to hear the story

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if you would uh i don't know if there's

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the ability to share my screen but i

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think one of the important things for

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your viewers to see is a picture of him

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how he appeared to me at the end of my

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uh in 2012. i had this face-to-face

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encounter with an extraterrestrial being

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and that began this 13-day odyssey of

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me being able to ask him any question i

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and over this 13-day period my mind was

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being blown

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wide open by the reality that we live in

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in the history of our world and our

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intimate connection

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with uh with them

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the extraterrestrials

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which uh is an is an important thing to

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share with people and i feel i'm here

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in part to share this story and what i

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learned and so uh

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uh let's do that if if possible if you

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do you have a share option at the bottom

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of your screen that might send me a

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i'm gonna share my screen let's do it i

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but don't worry we'll get it sorted i'm

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sure everyone in the chat here is

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patient and watching because it's

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don't share the show these tips again so

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okay so now if i go here can you see

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we've got it live yes all right got it

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so i want to uh

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say a little bit about myself to your

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viewers that may not know anything about

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me please um i'm from the midwest i was

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born in indiana and spent most of my

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life in ann arbor

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and in the detroit metro area that's

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where i started my first businesses

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i got a bachelor of science in computer

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aided design from eastern michigan

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university in ypsilanti

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so uh that's where i went and got my

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undergraduate degree and then i went on

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to harvard business school and got

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you know graduated from the business

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school and then i started uh three

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businesses uh my first company was an

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internet security company called netrex

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that i sold in 1999

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became suddenly extremely wealthy

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through the sale of that company and i

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retired for a number of years built a

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and then got antsy and wanted to start a

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new company so i started nanorex which

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was a software development company where

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we designed and released a open source

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program called nano engineer one

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that allowed people to design uh nano

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scale machine systems things that are

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and this allowed a engineer or designer

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to design with atomic detail

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you know all the components that make up

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a nano machine and simulate

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electromechanically with uh

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the the engines you know these plug-ins

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that allowed you to simulate and analyze

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designs at a nanoscale level because

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there's all sorts of design constraints

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and issues that pop up when you're

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designing things out with

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atomic detail that don't apply

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with traditional cad systems for

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instance the electrostatic potential of

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molecular gears is very very important

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to consider because for instance if you

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have two gears meshing together and one

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is positively charged and the other is

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negatively charged they're going to

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stick together

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so those kind of analytical tools

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on a nano scale level and even quantum

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level become very very significant

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and so that was my business from 2004 to

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2009 and then i started vortrax which

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was a renewable energy company when i

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was still living in michigan in 2014

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and i decided after three years that

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that wasn't the best use of my resources

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and my time i moved out to california

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where i am now fulfilling what i believe

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is my life's purpose and that we're

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going to get into

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so as a consequence of meeting tejbar in

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2012

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i started

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a foundation called loving giving

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serving all it's a 501c3

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i put millions of dollars into that

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foundation and began

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supporting and funding other non-profits

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and worthy causes that i believed in for

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instance i funded uh

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bringing awareness to the standing rock

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protest in south dakota and north dakota

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that was one of the things that i did

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the romero institute

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and ultimately the new paradigm

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institute that i co-founded with daniel

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sheehan in 2015

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was funded out of the

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loving giving serving all foundation

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and the most recent project that i've

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been involved in that i've started is

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the making contact campus and i'm going

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to talk a lot more about that shortly

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and our first inaugural event is the

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making contact convergence and this is

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where

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we've got this amazing lineup of

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speakers and presenters and lecturers

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that's probably i think and i've been

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told this by other people this is the

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most significant lineup in history of of

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these luminaries and scientists and

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academics and theologians we're really

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bringing to the table in this virtual

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platform uh a diverse set of people to

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discuss

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the topic of initiating diplomatic

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relations with extraterrestrials they

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are here and they're simply waiting for

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us to reach out to them responsibly

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collectively as a human family and we

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believe that if we do this in unity and

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in peace that they will respond and so

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that's what this discussion it from

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august 18th to the 22nd at the converge

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convergence event will really be about

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so uh this is our our logo and i just

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want to really quickly

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uh hopefully you'll be able to hear this

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yep can you hear it yep

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welcome to the making contact

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convergence event

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you are invited to experience our new

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virtual world

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to explore ideas beyond our world

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and to connect to other explorers

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like you

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you will also get to meet world-renowned

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experts and panelists in our virtual

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campus

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and discover some amazing things

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[Music]

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what is the making contact campus it's a

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one-of-a-kind 3d virtual space that you

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sign up for

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the first time you log in you'll custom

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design your very own avatar

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then you're free to stroll around and

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explore the various areas of the campus

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there's a wide variety of different

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venues to choose from

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you can watch a film in the theater or

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attend a seminar in one of the

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classrooms

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you can visit the giant expo hall

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see artist expositions or even join in

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on a scavenger hunt plus there's a whole

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lot more

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we look forward to seeing you right here

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[Music]

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so that's uh that's a preview of what

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we're doing um so i want to go back to

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my story and just share for your viewers

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quickly what led up to my contact

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experience please

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it was in the spring of 2012

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that i was

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retired and i was in my office of my

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home and i was just killing time

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watching some interesting youtube videos

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and i came across something called the

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disclosure project this was an event

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that took place back in 2001

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that was organized by dr steven greer in

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which he was able to convince

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20 witnesses to get in front of cameras

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and the news media and share their

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individual and witness you know

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testimony about having encountered an

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extraterrestrial or a ufo while they

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were on the active duty in the military

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or when they were working for the

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government for instance there were two

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nasa witnesses there was a man from the

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faa who was a senior executive and they

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all told these very compelling stories

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about

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their encounter and i

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came away from watching that video

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believing that they were telling the

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truth and knowing that if they were

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telling the truth this was the most

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important story in human history and i

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wanted to know more about it because i

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really was way behind the times i didn't

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follow the ufo et phenomenon at all as a

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kid i was you know i was aware of the

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popular culture you know the roswell

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incident but i really didn't want no

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expert but this piqued my curiosity

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and uh and i decided that i wanted to um

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study this guy you know stephen greer

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was the organizer of this event and he

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was not a military guy or a government

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guy he was a civilian who somehow

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you know got these people to convince

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convince them to get up in front of

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cameras and share their story and what i

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learned about him is that he had written

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three books by that time which i bought

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and read and what i learned from reading

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the books is that he actually had this

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organization called see seti

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that was the center for study for the

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study of extraterrestrial intelligence

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and that he had this program called the

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ce5 ambassador training and he hosted

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these retreats that were typically

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five to six days in length so i decided

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to sign up for the next one which is no

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which was in november of 2012.

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it was a six day event

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and so i uh registered i paid my 2500

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fee

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and then i flew from detroit to san

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diego rented a car and drove up to

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borrego springs california and this is

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where i stayed at the palms at the

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indian head hotel

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and this was the actual hotel this is a

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picture of it

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and this is the room right here it was

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room free and the reason why i highlight

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the fact that i stayed in that room of

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this hotel is because this is where i

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had my encounter with tejbar on the

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early morning of november

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2012

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but hours lead before that encounter

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we were all meditating in the desert now

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we this is the hotel here

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and this is where greer rented an airbnb

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house where we gathered in the afternoon

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and uh talked about extraterrestrial

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contact

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and and but at night

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about eight o'clock every night we would

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uh jump in eight or nine cars

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and together the 25 of us would drive to

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the field work site along these dirt

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roads

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and uh and that is where we would gather

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in a circle and

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begin meditating and we did two

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meditations for about an hour to an hour

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and a half each evening and on the fifth

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night of this six day retreat

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this object materialized out of thin air

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above us

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and when i saw that materialize out of

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thin air what it did for me was answer

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a burning question that i was there to

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have answered and that question was are

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they really here and will they respond

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to a call a collective call

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from people meditating asking them to to

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respond can we summon them and when this

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materialized above our group i knew that

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they were real and that somehow

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there was a connection between

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meditating and setting an intention to

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ask them to to appear

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and and so that was mind-blowing that

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somehow meditation was a way to connect

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with them

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and so that answered my burning question

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so

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when we later that night

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uh packed up and we we returned back to

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our hotel room of course i couldn't fall

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asleep i'm amped up from uh this

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uh sighting and from all of the

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implications now i i had new questions

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new burning questions i wanted to answer

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like who are they where are they from

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why are they so aloof and reclusive i

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realize that it's not the government

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that's keeping this hidden from the

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general public they themselves are

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hidden

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and so hiding themselves and so i wanted

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to know more and i decided that i would

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attempt to reach out to them and ask

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them to

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appear in my hotel room

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i didn't think it was likely to to work

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but i said what do i have to lose

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probably

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it occurred to me that they might be

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monitoring all of us to see how we would

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react to their

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to this major sighting

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and so i

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assume that maybe they are watching me

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maybe through consciousness they are

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able to read my mind and and they're

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analyzing what i'm thinking so if that's

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happening right now i want them to know

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that i want to make face-to-face contact

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that i'm not afraid

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that i i really

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would like a relationship with them and

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i want to learn from them like others

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who have claimed to have had contact

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have had the pleasure of of doing

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so in that spirit

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i decided to practice a greeting that i

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would give in the unlikely event that an

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e.t would appear in my hotel room

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and i felt there were three critical

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things that i would want to say in this

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greeting number one that i was very

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grateful

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that they that they would appear to me

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number two that i require or i i would

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like a

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a a relationship a lifelong relationship

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00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,080
with them to learn from them

563
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,799
and number three and most importantly i

564
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:27,600
feel

565
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,880
was to

566
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:30,799
let them know i trusted them

567
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:35,440
unconditionally so i said in my greeting

568
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:36,559
that i

569
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,120
completely trust them to do with me and

570
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:43,840
my body anything that they chose that i

571
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,400
would completely trust them so those

572
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,200
were the three elements of my greeting

573
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:51,520
so i sat there in bed and i began

574
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:55,440
meditating and i started getting this

575
00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:58,720
light blue light show in my third eye it

576
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,760
was like a swirling whirlpool of light

577
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:04,480
and this eventually ended up

578
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,320
uh coalescing into a bright sphere

579
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,960
in my mind's eye and then that began

580
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,600
morphing into a humanoid figure and when

581
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,840
i opened my eyes standing at the end of

582
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:18,480
my bed was this

583
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,600
being

584
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,159
so what you're looking at on the left is

585
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,320
a pencil drawing the original drawing

586
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,440
that i made of tejbar this being that i

587
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,120
made contact with

588
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,159
and then later i did this illustration

589
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:34,720
on my computer trying to capture the

590
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:37,760
true essence because what was clear to

591
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,480
me

592
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:40,960
that you can see more obviously on the

593
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:44,640
right is that he was non-physical this

594
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:47,600
was a being made of light or possibly it

595
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:50,159
was a holographic projection

596
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,279
uh and and but it was clearly humanoid

597
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,240
it had eyes it had these strange pupils

598
00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,520
and um and so as it stood there at the

599
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,240
end of my bed i gave it this greeting

600
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,559
that i had been practicing

601
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,480
i just want to show you this picture

602
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,880
this is a professional illustration that

603
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:11,039
i did as a mock-up for my new book that

604
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:12,960
i'm going to be publishing in february

605
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:16,559
so i have february is my my new publish

606
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:20,080
date um and this i i worked with the

607
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,360
illustrator

608
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,400
uh to really capture the real essence of

609
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,440
it

610
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:27,760
and and so this is teshbar this is the

611
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:30,320
spelling of his name and when i gave

612
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,279
that

613
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,520
uh greeting he then

614
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,440
started to slowly walk from the end of

615
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,080
my bed and approached me on my left side

616
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:40,880
and as i'm looking into those eyes that

617
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:43,360
are depicted in this illustration i

618
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:46,960
noticed that his eyes are not eyes at

619
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,360
all what i thought were those weird

620
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:51,200
u-shaped pupils

621
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,200
are actually the the superior suture in

622
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,600
the back of the eye orbital what i was

623
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,640
looking at were sockets of a skull

624
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,960
and these holes in the back which are

625
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,279
which look like these use

626
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,240
are were not pupils but holes in the

627
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:10,720
back of the sockets of the eye

628
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,360
where the optic nerve from the eyeball

629
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,360
goes to the brain

630
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,360
and as i'm looking into his eyes he's

631
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,000
now standing just about two feet from me

632
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:22,640
i'm looking in these eyes and i'm just

633
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:25,600
like you know i'm i'm like

634
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,960
taking a double take i like what is this

635
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,120
is these is this really what i think it

636
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,440
is are these sockets of a skull

637
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,320
and and as i am coming to this

638
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,799
realization that yes indeed this is what

639
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,480
i'm looking into

640
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:43,039
i see something moving below and i look

641
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:46,480
down and i see this hand with his index

642
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,679
finger moving slowly towards my elbow

643
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,240
and i realize he wants to touch me so

644
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,240
i'm going to let him touch me

645
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:56,960
and he touches my elbow and i feel it i

646
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,159
feel both a physical touch and a tingly

647
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,559
sensation like static electricity where

648
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:05,520
he's beginning to touch my my elbow and

649
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,279
then he continues to push his hand into

650
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,240
my elbow and he continues through my

651
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,080
left torso

652
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,240
through my back through the right side

653
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,360
of my body and as his arm and forearm

654
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:21,200
are going through the right side of my

655
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,320
body now his right shoulder is beginning

656
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,039
to merge with my left shoulder and as

657
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,080
that's happening i this tingly sensation

658
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,039
is intensifying because more of his body

659
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,960
is merging with mine

660
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:36,640
and when his shoulder

661
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:39,760
began merging it my fight or flight

662
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,279
response kicked in and i wanted to jump

663
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:45,440
up but i caught myself at the last

664
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,480
second

665
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,039
because i had just given him my promise

666
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,919
my word that i completely trusted him

667
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,039
and i wanted to honor that promise

668
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:57,919
so i forced myself to sit still and i

669
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,679
just wrote it out it was so intense

670
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,960
and freaky

671
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:05,279
so i just held on

672
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,960
and as he continued to immerse himself

673
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:11,120
into my body

674
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,080
um

675
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,240
i i just sat there

676
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,200
and eventually that tingly sensation

677
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,159
began dissipating and i was left after a

678
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,600
few moments

679
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:24,159
feeling completely normal again

680
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,880
but what i knew what what i had this

681
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,960
acute awareness of is that there was

682
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:31,120
this other being inside of my physical

683
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:34,159
body there was another resident in my

684
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,120
physical body i don't know how i knew

685
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:40,080
that but it was so acute this awareness

686
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,279
that i then finally asked him my first

687
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,440
question and that is

688
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:47,120
what is your name

689
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:50,640
and he said exactly like this vinnie he

690
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:11,990
and i said tesbar and he

691
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:13,430
just like that

692
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,919
very loud and very forceful

693
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,720
so

694
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,279
when he spelled it i got the

695
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,080
you know the the details of the

696
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,720
pronunciation and i began repeating it

697
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:27,120
out loud a few times and i could feel

698
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,000
his

699
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,760
satisfaction once i repeated it and kept

700
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,080
repeating it properly

701
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,120
and so my next question once i finished

702
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,279
repeating his name properly

703
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,159
was to ask where are you from

704
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:44,240
and he said i'm from earth

705
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,679
and i said whoa you do not you do not

706
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,080
look like any earth creature i've ever

707
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,799
seen can you explain

708
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,120
he went on to share with me that he had

709
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:57,840
been a human being roughly 3 000 years

710
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:01,039
ago and that he when he died

711
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:01,919
he

712
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:05,440
realm

713
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,240
so

714
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:08,399
you know when he's explaining this all

715
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,600
to me he's saying when he lived as you

716
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,080
know when he was alive as a human being

717
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:16,640
he lived in a place that is today called

718
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,440
tierra del fuego and that i would find

719
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,440
it at the southernmost tip of south

720
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,799
america

721
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:24,799
i had never heard of this place called

722
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,600
terre del fuego so i stopped my

723
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,000
interview immediately and i got my

724
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,039
laptop computer and because i had wi-fi

725
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:35,840
access in the hotel i could do a google

726
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,120
search and i decided to begin

727
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,320
to confirm this tierra del fuego through

728
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,480
google earth which was a program i had

729
00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:46,480
on my computer so i launched google

730
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:49,840
earth i typed in tierra del faygo i hit

731
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,480
the search button and the earth zoomed

732
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,799
in began spinning to the southern tip of

733
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:56,240
south america

734
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:59,120
and i got goosebumps all over because i

735
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,960
could see it was zooming into the very

736
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:03,120
southern tip and when it finally

737
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:06,320
finished zooming in the letters tierra

738
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:09,519
del fuego popped up on the screen

739
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,640
and i just i was gobsmacked i was i was

740
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:14,799
stunned i was lightheaded i almost felt

741
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,440
like i was going to faint because for me

742
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:19,760
this was such a major confirmation that

743
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:22,559
i was having a contact experience with a

744
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:25,760
being who had now take taken residence

745
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:28,399
in my body and i was communicating

746
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,679
through telepathic communication

747
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,960
and so

748
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,840
i was i was this was confirming this

749
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,840
experience i was having i wasn't going

750
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:39,360
nuts

751
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,159
uh

752
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,559
so before i put away my computer and

753
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:45,360
continued my interview i decided that i

754
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:48,880
would google the name tejbar which was

755
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,559
spelled t-e-z j-b-a-r just like here

756
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:54,640
and when i typed that into the google

757
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:57,600
search engine there was one hit on the

758
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:01,360
entire library of google and that

759
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:05,279
link took me to the google books library

760
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,559
in which a book was was shown and the

761
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,279
title of that book was the indigenous

762
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,760
tribes of tierra del fuego i think it

763
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,760
was something i always forget because

764
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,840
it's a it's a long name the book title

765
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,200
is a long name

766
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:21,120
but it's the indigenous

767
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:22,240
uh

768
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,200
tribes and cultures or territories of

769
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,240
the tribes of tierra del fuego

770
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,880
and when i clicked on it to

771
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,120
open the book which had been scanned

772
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,760
into the google books library

773
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:37,360
somewhere in this book was the word

774
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:40,960
teshbar so i used the find function

775
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:44,000
to search for teshbar and i found in the

776
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,440
back of this book

777
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:48,159
that had been published in 1916 by an

778
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,240
anthropologist named

779
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,000
john cooper

780
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:55,120
and glossary was in the back of his book

781
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,799
and it was a a list of names or words

782
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,159
that had been

783
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,039
translated from the native

784
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:05,919
language of these tribes and that

785
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:08,799
language was called fuegian

786
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:11,679
was translated into phonetic english and

787
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,320
there was a word there in the glossary

788
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:17,440
spelled teshbar t-e-z-j-b-a-r

789
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,799
that literally translates into the word

790
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,480
forehead

791
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:24,559
i kid you not and it's still there you

792
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,080
can still search it and find that um so

793
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,559
that was a second confirmation for me

794
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,120
that i wasn't losing my mind or that

795
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:35,519
this very real experience

796
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:38,080
i i it occurred me to me may have

797
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,080
triggered a um alter ego you know that i

798
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,000
this was just wishful thinking on my

799
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:46,880
part that i had now an et inside of me

800
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,440
that i was communicating with but these

801
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,399
two confirmations made it very clear to

802
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:55,279
me that i was having a real experience

803
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:58,640
and so for the next 13 days i remained

804
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,360
in the state of communion this is what

805
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:03,440
he called it and he explained the

806
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,399
communion where the the joining of three

807
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:07,679
things

808
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,720
the

809
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:10,399
physical body

810
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,440
the soul or astral body which we all

811
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:15,679
have inside of our physical body that's

812
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,399
the immortal part of us that continues

813
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,119
to exist after the physical death

814
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:23,679
and then he represented the trinity the

815
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:26,240
third component which was the celestial

816
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,280
body

817
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:29,760
and those three things coming together

818
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:33,359
in union is called the communion

819
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,639
and so

820
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,040
so i stayed in the state of communion

821
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,159
over a 13-day period in which i was able

822
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:42,879
to ask him any question i wished and

823
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,240
that led ultimately to the

824
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,200
discovery of the universal consciousness

825
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,200
development chart this was the thing

826
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,760
that i explained in a video

827
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,079
that i i

828
00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,280
posted on youtube back in 2015 but that

829
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,640
video was recorded on the anniversary

830
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,040
of our communion

831
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,599
in which i went to borrego springs back

832
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,320
in november of 2013

833
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,720
and i invited some of my closest friends

834
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,880
and some of the people that were there

835
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:16,800
in 2012

836
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:19,680
that i had remained in contact with and

837
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,320
become good friends with and i shared my

838
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,280
story publicly for the very first time

839
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:27,200
and what you're looking at there is a

840
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,839
screenshot from that video in which i

841
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,400
explain the universal consciousness

842
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,000
development chart

843
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,560
and here it is in its full glory this is

844
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,480
the original incarnation of the

845
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:40,160
universal consciousness development

846
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,040
chart

847
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:43,280
and before i i

848
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:46,480
get into this because this is a whole

849
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:47,280
uh

850
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,480
lengthy explanation about it but but in

851
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,040
in a nutshell what you're looking at

852
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:55,680
is the

853
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:58,720
role of consciousness and manife and

854
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:01,760
manifesting physical reality

855
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,800
and and the multi-dimensionality of our

856
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:05,839
physical

857
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,079
that includes all these dimensions of

858
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,400
consciousness dimensions of what he

859
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,880
called freedom of which our three space

860
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,520
dimensions are a subset and the two

861
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:19,760
dimensions of time that he explained to

862
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,720
me that comprise the full complement of

863
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:24,560
26 dimensions

864
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:27,839
that our reality is comprised of

865
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,560
so with that i'm going to uh

866
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,320
uh get out of here i'm going to stop

867
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:33,920
sharing my screen

868
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:34,720
and

869
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,520
on

870
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:43,839
what would you like to know now wow i

871
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,630
oh one second

872
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:52,720
what oh you're getting back

873
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:53,440
yeah

874
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:54,640
oh okay

875
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,750
there we go apologies that's better no

876
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,359
worries no worries brother mark thank

877
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:03,040
you so much for explaining that i've

878
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,079
never

879
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,400
seen that in detail by any means so i

880
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,079
can really thank you so much for sharing

881
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,839
that with me and everyone watching

882
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,720
that's

883
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,839
my pleasure

884
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,000
eye-opening i mean i've never seen

885
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,320
anything like that before so yeah it's

886
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:18,320
it's really the the

887
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,480
you know magnus opus of what he shared

888
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,200
with me and he encouraged me he said you

889
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,480
are the first person on earth who's who

890
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,760
knows this

891
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:32,240
and we would like you to share it with

892
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,240
the human family and so my my nine year

893
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:38,960
mission since this uh since this

894
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,000
encounter has been to figure out the

895
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,880
best way to share my story and

896
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,280
ultimately to share all the details of

897
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:49,680
this universal consciousness development

898
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:52,560
chart because it will paint a picture

899
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:55,760
that will ultimately explain the uap

900
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,119
phenomenon and who and what the et's are

901
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:01,760
and their very intimate relationship to

902
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,560
us

903
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:04,720
it's a fascinating story it's a

904
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:07,760
beautiful story in fact to me it is the

905
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:10,640
most beautiful story i've ever heard

906
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,440
about our origins and our

907
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,920
deep connection with consciousness and

908
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,720
with our extraterrestrial family our

909
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,160
star family

910
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:22,400
it's a beautiful story and it's a real

911
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,280
celebration mass contact the thing that

912
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,240
i'm now committed my life to to

913
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:30,960
you know to help bring about this uh

914
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:33,680
global synchronized

915
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:37,839
contact event that's years away now

916
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,720
this is my life's work and it's through

917
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,640
this story that i'm sharing and through

918
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,640
the universal consciousness development

919
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,880
chart that will help people understand

920
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:49,359
this is nothing to be feared this is a

921
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:52,400
natural evolution and progression of our

922
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,720
growth and and collective human family

923
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:58,480
evolution

924
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,640
that's incredible wow

925
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,400
so tyler i mean this must be something

926
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,240
that you became aware of obviously back

927
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:05,920
back at the time when mark put this

928
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:07,200
information out

929
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,480
but am i right in saying that you were

930
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,720
already on that journey before then and

931
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,960
how things all correlated for you and

932
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,119
came together so maybe we can jump right

933
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:16,960
back and dive into your history a little

934
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,280
bit if that's okay with you

935
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,960
yes so

936
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,280
the the concepts that

937
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:25,760
mark just shared through his experience

938
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,400
with tejbar and the insights that he

939
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,359
received from tejbar and the universal

940
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:34,000
consciousness development uh

941
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:35,280
evolution

942
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,640
of physical reality and the astral and

943
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,160
the celestial

944
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,720
i began realizing that

945
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,480
more than likely just through my own

946
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,119
experiences and through

947
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,280
the contact that we've made out on our

948
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,720
expeditions

949
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,720
and through all the other

950
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,720
readily available materials that are out

951
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,320
there on the internet that anyone can

952
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:58,640
access

953
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,520
yes

954
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,359
absolutely i was coming to the same

955
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,599
conclusions just through my own due

956
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,200
diligence of trying to understand the

957
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:07,359
cosmos and cosmology

958
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,240
and

959
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,200
realizing that consciousness

960
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,160
is all of existence in a singularity and

961
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,319
all sentient life that's within that

962
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,160
universe and within that consciousness

963
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,480
is connected and there's no separation

964
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:21,599
between it

965
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,640
so

966
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,680
having that perspective and entering

967
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,599
that paradigm of understanding the

968
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,520
mechanics of reality

969
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,599
made me realize that

970
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,560
yes this is going to be the main

971
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:36,640
modality that we're going to need to

972
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,280
ascend collectively as a human family

973
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,200
and to reach that next step in our

974
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,359
evolutionary process and it's going to

975
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:44,880
be necessary to communicate with

976
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,599
extraterrestrials and

977
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:49,920
even the term extraterrestrial i feel as

978
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:53,680
though isn't broad enough to defy

979
00:40:57,550 --> 00:40:56,240
the true nature of these infinite life

980
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,560
forms that are out there because

981
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,760
extraterrestrial specifically by

982
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,200
definition

983
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,200
is a physical

984
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,920
being from a physical star system that's

985
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,160
out there in the physical universe when

986
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:11,040
if they're having the capabilities to

987
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,880
travel and traverse interstellar

988
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,200
distances they have technology that

989
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,400
makes them non-physical because if you

990
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,280
go past what is called and known as the

991
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:23,280
crossing point of light you're entering

992
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:24,560
another dimension that's beyond

993
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,680
physicality so their technologies are

994
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:29,839
making them non-physical energetic

995
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,040
beings that are somehow able

996
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,240
to directly interface with consciousness

997
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,520
move outside of linear space time and

998
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,800
communicate with us telepathically so

999
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,040
to my understanding the technology

1000
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:46,880
that's needed to make that happen is

1001
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:50,079
rudimentally founded in consciousness so

1002
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,839
all the information that mark just

1003
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:54,319
shared to me personally resonates on on

1004
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,079
a very deep level

1005
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,040
and i realized that there's so much more

1006
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:01,359
to understand uncover unlock and to

1007
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,480
discover

1008
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,040
and this opens up an entire new doorway

1009
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:07,280
into a completely new paradigm of

1010
00:42:12,910 --> 00:42:10,480
science that isn't fundamentally rooted

1011
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,920
in newtonianism and in essence

1012
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:14,480
newtonianism

1013
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,680
is

1014
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,160
stating that us as humans and our

1015
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,240
physical body is completely separate and

1016
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,319
distinct from the world around us when

1017
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:23,680
that's not the case and that's been

1018
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,599
disproven since 1926 or 1927 when

1019
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:29,920
quantum mechanics was first introduced

1020
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,920
so what we're trying to do with the new

1021
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:33,920
paradigm institute and the making

1022
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,280
contact campus is to open up a dialogue

1023
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,000
with scientists and

1024
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,560
academics around the world and

1025
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,599
people of influence in the space of

1026
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,599
academia that

1027
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,920
we can begin integrating a new

1028
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,359
understanding that's outside of

1029
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,839
conventional means of how

1030
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,599
we operate in the universe what our

1031
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:57,440
connection to the universe is and what

1032
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,319
our place in the cosmos is and

1033
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,760
that's what we're trying to introduce to

1034
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,000
people i know i went a bit off track

1035
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,000
here with with how i got involved in it

1036
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,000
personally but just through my own

1037
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,599
research and through my own experiences

1038
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,319
it really brought me onto this path and

1039
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,200
it's no coincidence by any means that

1040
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,000
mark sims daniel sheehan and i have come

1041
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:20,880
together on this on this single mission

1042
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,119
to get this information out to people i

1043
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,200
think it's a matter of just

1044
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,920
uh divine orchestration that's coming

1045
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,240
from that's being facilitated and coming

1046
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,880
from some higher uh multi-dimensional

1047
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,040
aspect of ourselves or

1048
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,400
or what have you

1049
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:38,160
and that's uh

1050
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,920
that that's where i'm at with the whole

1051
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,119
situation

1052
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,680
that's amazing thank you so much so mark

1053
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,359
i'm throwing it back to you can you

1054
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,400
maybe explain how you first met um danny

1055
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,640
sheehan and how he got on board and how

1056
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,880
this connection and bond really formed

1057
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,560
and came together

1058
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:56,720
that's a great question that i haven't

1059
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,920
shared very many times on a public

1060
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:02,000
platform like this

1061
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,160
so in 2012 i have my contact experience

1062
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,079
and then in 2013 i come out publicly in

1063
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:12,720
this gathering in borrego springs

1064
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:15,680
uh and share my story and that kind of

1065
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,480
begins a domino effect of my story

1066
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,760
getting out there in social media i had

1067
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:24,319
friends that were there that had started

1068
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:27,520
ce5 facebook groups uh and they were

1069
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,640
encouraging me to share my story and so

1070
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,280
i joined some of these groups and

1071
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,359
uh you know just started sharing my

1072
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,000
story and sharing the video with people

1073
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:40,400
and one of the people that ended up

1074
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:43,520
learning about my story was a man named

1075
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,839
dr joseph burks he used to be one of uh

1076
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:50,800
greer's colleagues he was an emergency

1077
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:55,359
room doctor himself in at ucla hospital

1078
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:58,640
and he and i began having discussions on

1079
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:02,079
facebook which led to a friendship

1080
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,440
over the phone

1081
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,839
and he eventually invited me to come and

1082
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,400
visit him in california and stay with

1083
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:10,960
him for a week so i spent a week with dr

1084
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,520
burks at his home and we really got to

1085
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,200
know each other and talk about our

1086
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,520
shared experiences and the implications

1087
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,599
of what we had learned

1088
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:21,040
and uh

1089
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:23,920
and that then led to him introducing me

1090
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,240
to costa macris who uh who i had already

1091
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:30,400
begun who i already knew

1092
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,040
on facebook because he was so prolific

1093
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,680
on facebook but he and i never struck up

1094
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,720
a friendship until joseph burks

1095
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:40,400
introduced me to him

1096
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,440
i then reached out to uh to to costa

1097
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,640
and

1098
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,359
he suggested that i

1099
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:51,680
be introduced to danny sheehan

1100
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:55,520
and so he arranged a meeting for me and

1101
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,319
danny to have in the spring of 2015 so i

1102
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,359
flew from michigan to san jose and

1103
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:05,839
danny's secretary picked me up at the

1104
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:08,800
airport and drove me to santa cruz where

1105
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,280
i then met with him the next day

1106
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:12,640
and

1107
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,480
that meeting led to a friendship uh one

1108
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,720
of the things that

1109
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:20,720
we talked about in that first meeting

1110
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:21,760
was

1111
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:22,560
uh

1112
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:25,680
the fact that danny had become very good

1113
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,480
friends with dr john mack the harvard

1114
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,960
uh professor and the head of clinical

1115
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,640
psychology at harvard who he had

1116
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,560
defended and saved his job back in the

1117
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:35,839
90s

1118
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:38,720
and what danny shared with me among

1119
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:42,000
other things was that he and john had

1120
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,839
developed a an executive summary plan a

1121
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:47,920
business plan for launching something

1122
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,960
called the new paradigm institute

1123
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,240
that was

1124
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,520
chartered

1125
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:55,760
with helping prepare

1126
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:58,240
leaders in government and in the

1127
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,440
religious

1128
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,920
institutions around the world especially

1129
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,160
the catholic church of which danny was

1130
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:06,400
intimately involved as general counsel

1131
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:09,200
for the jesuit order of north america

1132
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:11,839
and he was uh you know he was in those

1133
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,880
circles uh of the catholic church

1134
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,280
and he was uh

1135
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,520
uh engaging in discussions already

1136
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,280
behind closed doors about the

1137
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:24,000
inevitability of extraterrestrial

1138
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,200
contact

1139
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,680
with the the jesuits and the in the

1140
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,040
vatican

1141
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:31,200
and and stressing the importance of

1142
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:34,720
preparing the the priests and you know

1143
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:38,400
the the clergy with uh with how to what

1144
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,920
to tell their followers the masses when

1145
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,079
mass contact was made

1146
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,040
and so um he and dr

1147
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,160
dr mack were formulating a

1148
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:53,680
uh a think tank that would generate

1149
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,200
white papers and make recommendations to

1150
00:48:02,950 --> 00:47:59,920
these leaders around the world when they

1151
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:02,960
were when they would need it uh so that

1152
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,760
they had a resource to call upon so that

1153
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,079
they could prepare themselves and their

1154
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,960
followers adequately so that was their

1155
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,079
idea

1156
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,559
and they had secured a building on

1157
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,480
harvard campus through

1158
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,040
john max contacts and they were getting

1159
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:21,440
ready to sign a lease when john mack was

1160
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,200
tragically killed in london in 2006.

1161
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,000
so that just shuttered the whole thing

1162
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:31,200
and he put the the the project on the

1163
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:34,960
back burner and when i came to his uh

1164
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,839
doorstep and he realized here was a guy

1165
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:39,920
whose life had been altered and

1166
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,800
completely changed and focused on

1167
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,800
bringing awareness to this issue and

1168
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,040
that i had been a very successful

1169
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,319
entrepreneur and this needed funding uh

1170
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,640
by somebody who shared the passion and

1171
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:54,400
who felt called to this

1172
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:57,599
so i so he he sat there and we spent a

1173
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,240
couple hours him briefing me on all this

1174
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:02,559
history and the intention

1175
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,920
of the new paradigm institute and i at

1176
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:07,920
the end of that meeting i said danny i'm

1177
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:10,000
in i feel called i want to be a part of

1178
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:10,800
this

1179
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:14,400
so i provided the funding to hire our

1180
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:17,839
first executive director we

1181
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:20,559
started our our headquarters in berkeley

1182
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:23,119
california in a place called

1183
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,599
uh holy hill which is right across the

1184
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,599
street from the university of california

1185
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,640
berkeley

1186
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:30,559
and at holy hill

1187
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,640
is one square mile of of property that

1188
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:37,200
is dedicated to establishing an

1189
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:38,480
interfaith

1190
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,589
academic

1191
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:44,480
center

1192
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,760
where these theologians these academic

1193
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,480
theologians could meet and have

1194
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:52,240
discussions on

1195
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:55,440
all the trends in in the world uh you

1196
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,800
know the the trends culturally globally

1197
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:01,280
economically geopolitically

1198
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,640
that would impact the different faiths

1199
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,040
and they could have a collective

1200
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:09,839
conversation about this and then that

1201
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,880
could be used to advise their leaders

1202
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:14,800
and very few people are aware of this

1203
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:18,480
it's it's unprecedented this holy hill

1204
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:21,520
and it's become a very powerful and

1205
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,559
important place so we felt that was the

1206
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,200
place we needed to to start our

1207
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,119
headquarters to land right in the center

1208
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,359
of that and to begin reaching out to

1209
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,079
these academic progressives in the hopes

1210
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,680
of having a discussion about the

1211
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,400
theological and philosophical and

1212
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:40,400
cultural implications

1213
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:43,079
of this inevitability of

1214
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:46,559
extraterrestrial contact and so for two

1215
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:49,760
years we sat there with our first hire

1216
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,040
our executive director who we hired um

1217
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,359
and we were reaching out to these

1218
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,880
to these people

1219
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,200
and after two years we just didn't get

1220
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,280
anywhere they were just so

1221
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,200
not interested

1222
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,720
by and large

1223
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,040
and so i stopped funding it because it

1224
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:09,040
was clearly we were hitting a brick wall

1225
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:10,880
and i just didn't want to throw more

1226
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:13,359
money at this because it was expensive

1227
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,119
and uh and i began thinking about

1228
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,839
well you know if we're going to have

1229
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,720
this needs to be an international

1230
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:23,920
institute

1231
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:27,200
and that requires more people and more

1232
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:30,319
buildings more facilities and more money

1233
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,760
and you know

1234
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,880
and

1235
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:33,920
managing

1236
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:36,400
physical brick and mortar facilities and

1237
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,200
the people to hire is very daunting

1238
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,839
especially for an organization

1239
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,440
that is small

1240
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:46,480
and has a controversial

1241
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:47,520
mission

1242
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,800
and vision

1243
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:51,440
so what we decide what i began thinking

1244
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:55,440
about back in 2016 after we shut it down

1245
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,640
was uh doing this virtually that let's

1246
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,720
do this virtually let's create it in

1247
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:03,440
virtual space this opens up

1248
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,119
uh the the platform for discussion to

1249
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,599
anybody in the world who feels called to

1250
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:11,200
have this discussion

1251
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,240
and we can do it safely because in a

1252
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,599
virtual

1253
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,920
location you don't have to physically be

1254
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:20,319
there so you can feel safe and that

1255
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,160
you're doing it in confidence with

1256
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,920
others and

1257
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,079
and that would be a ideal platform and

1258
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:28,400
with my my background in computer

1259
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,280
graphics i knew how to do that

1260
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,760
and i knew people programmers who had

1261
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,520
worked with in the past for instance

1262
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:36,960
some of the programmers that worked with

1263
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,800
me at nanorex and even back at netrex my

1264
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,319
my first company

1265
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,559
are our amazing

1266
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,119
software developers and and since i've

1267
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,760
been kind of shaking the bushes and

1268
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,400
telling people this idea we've been got

1269
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,640
we've begun thinking about this

1270
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:56,960
so what we've done we found a company

1271
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,400
that actually has a ready-made virtual

1272
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,760
platform and we have rented that

1273
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,040
for creating and customizing our making

1274
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,640
contact campus

1275
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:10,960
and that our inaugural event is going to

1276
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,200
be the making contact convergence but

1277
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,119
we're going to be having other events

1278
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,720
there and we're going to keep having

1279
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,040
events and speakers and classes and

1280
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,240
lectures

1281
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:22,640
and gatherings in this virtual place to

1282
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:25,920
keep the momentum going and our vision

1283
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,319
ultimately is to make this a community

1284
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,240
hub where other

1285
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:32,800
uh p other organizations like contact

1286
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:35,839
tour you know tyler uh we have exo

1287
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,240
metaverse uh started by uh zinka carro

1288
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,599
and other other organizations that have

1289
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,520
value in a common

1290
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:47,920
vision and mission to come together and

1291
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:49,839
have this discussion and work together

1292
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,319
and synchronize our efforts and leverage

1293
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,680
our ideas

1294
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,640
to to bring the best

1295
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,680
to bear on this very complex problem

1296
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,160
and do it internationally it's so much

1297
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,240
fun

1298
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:06,800
we've gotten a lot of uh interest

1299
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,760
and uh our first event is a stellar

1300
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,920
event for promoting this platform and

1301
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:14,240
people can come there and attend and see

1302
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,000
what this unique experience is like

1303
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,760
yeah and i will just say for anyone that

1304
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:21,040
hasn't noticed the banner across the

1305
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,720
bottom of the screen you can register

1306
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,920
for this event now at makingcontact.com

1307
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:28,800
use the code of vinnie save 100 for 100

1308
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:31,680
off of the ticket price um i'm gonna be

1309
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,680
there so i'd love to see you guys there

1310
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,280
because we can meet

1311
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,680
in this virtual campus and we can chat

1312
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,079
we can go and see the speakers we can do

1313
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:42,880
all sorts of things in and on the

1314
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,520
virtual campus so i'm just going to jump

1315
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,200
back to a question that um a colleague

1316
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:49,920
asked earlier which we kind of

1317
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:52,400
skipped past no no you know just happens

1318
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,119
but

1319
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,280
mark what do you have any answer to what

1320
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,920
tesbar mike might think of disclosure in

1321
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:00,160
its current form at the moment and if

1322
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,040
mass contacts will happen anytime soon

1323
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,240
absolutely um from the very beginning

1324
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:08,960
disclosure was at the heart of my

1325
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,240
teachings by tejbar that what i was

1326
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:14,480
being what was being shared and told to

1327
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:15,200
me

1328
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:21,200
story and everything i learned and uh

1329
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,720
and at the heart of it ultimately was

1330
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,119
making contact um

1331
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,119
that the the

1332
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:31,359
disclosure question

1333
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,160
which has been primarily centered around

1334
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,040
the idea of our government coming clean

1335
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,119
you know coming uh

1336
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,880
sharing with the general public what

1337
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:41,839
they know

1338
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:44,799
about the extraterrestrial question and

1339
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:47,200
the uap phenomenon

1340
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,960
but the problem of course is that

1341
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,400
they've

1342
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:52,400
lost any integrity

1343
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,359
and trust of the general public

1344
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,040
not just the american people but

1345
00:56:02,950 --> 00:55:59,599
especially the global community

1346
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,960
and they have lost any credibility uh

1347
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,680
whatever if if they were to come out and

1348
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:06,799
and share

1349
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:09,520
uh and if it were true what they were

1350
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,920
sharing eventually once they made

1351
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,559
disclosure people would still be suspect

1352
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,480
they were saying okay this is not true

1353
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,640
this is a disinformation campaign so

1354
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,119
they're kind of damned if they do and

1355
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,920
damned if they don't do disclosure

1356
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:25,119
and so

1357
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,799
the the that means that who's now left

1358
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:31,119
to do this and

1359
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,240
what's

1360
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,240
clear to me and i think that anyone

1361
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,160
who's been following this for any length

1362
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,119
of time is that this must be a citizen's

1363
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:41,040
disclosure initiative

1364
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,799
and we need to find

1365
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,200
people in our community like danny

1366
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:48,000
sheehan who's my my candidate

1367
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,520
who has

1368
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:52,559
decades of of uh

1369
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,760
his his reputation behind him of of work

1370
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,520
of passion

1371
00:57:02,470 --> 00:56:59,359
of doing the right thing of telling the

1372
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,480
truth of being the people's advocate not

1373
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:05,200
just on the et and disclosure question

1374
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:09,280
but on other issues that uh are related

1375
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,079
to

1376
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:13,920
uh civilian or citizens rights and

1377
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:16,400
justice you know he's the one who shined

1378
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,520
a light on the the contra affair you

1379
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:20,880
know this uh

1380
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:25,359
cia uh uh program to raise money uh to

1381
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:28,160
free hostages in iran back in the 80s

1382
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:30,319
for in exchange for weapons

1383
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,040
using the money that was uh that was

1384
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,079
made through the laundering of uh drugs

1385
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,160
that were being smuggled into united

1386
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:40,400
states from central america central and

1387
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:43,359
south america by the cia i mean this is

1388
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:44,319
awful

1389
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:48,799
and uh

1390
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,599
and so uh you know he was the one who

1391
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,000
was the general counsel who brought the

1392
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,480
case against the federal government and

1393
00:58:02,150 --> 00:57:59,359
ultimately you know prove that this was

1394
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,160
true back in the 1980s

1395
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:04,640
and and so he's been a champion of

1396
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,839
justice and truth for his entire career

1397
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:10,160
he's never been a a

1398
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:13,680
a showboat or or one to ring in his own

1399
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,400
belly it's always about the issues it's

1400
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,640
always about others that have you know

1401
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:21,359
risked their lives or willing to to come

1402
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:24,400
forward to to be a witness to these

1403
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,440
injustices to be whistleblowers and his

1404
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:30,079
latest case is you know his

1405
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:33,680
representation of lou elizondo who in my

1406
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:37,599
who in my very frank uh and educated

1407
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:38,640
opinion

1408
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:41,920
is a true hero this this question of

1409
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:44,720
whether he's a disinformation agent is

1410
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,760
i'll call this is not

1411
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:49,839
true this

1412
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:52,079
forward he's a hero he's an american

1413
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,000
hero and he deserves our our our

1414
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:58,400
applause and support

1415
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,599
and anybody who says otherwise doesn't

1416
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,079
know what they're talking about he he

1417
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,319
has risked his reputation

1418
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,960
and his public uh his his personal

1419
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:10,799
safety by doing this

1420
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,559
potentially his life potentially his

1421
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,319
life was put into that right by coming

1422
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,319
out and doing this and and shame on

1423
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:18,960
anybody frankly for saying you know that

1424
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,960
he's anybody any anything else than than

1425
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,720
trying to do the right thing and being a

1426
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,000
true american patriot and and you know

1427
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:31,440
here's a guy who who we in the community

1428
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,920
the citizens community for disclosure

1429
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,160
have been asking people like him to come

1430
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,880
out of the closet to to come out and and

1431
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,319
share what they know

1432
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,640
uh you know and then here's a guy who

1433
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,880
does it and and members of our own

1434
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,480
community are saying oh he's a

1435
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:49,520
disinformation agent is is infuriating

1436
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:54,079
to me and so please i i just ask anybody

1437
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:56,319
who who believes that he's a

1438
01:00:02,549 --> 00:59:59,440
disinformation agent it's not true this

1439
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,559
is a good man and he's risking his his

1440
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:05,280
reputation and his own personal safety

1441
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,160
not only the safety of of himself but of

1442
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:09,440
his family

1443
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,240
and that takes tremendous courage and he

1444
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:14,559
deserves he deserves

1445
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,680
an award in my book this is a true hero

1446
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,079
the kind of people that we should be

1447
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,160
applauding and supporting

1448
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:23,680
absolutely

1449
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,280
my chest that's the first time i've ever

1450
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:28,960
made a public statement about lou

1451
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,760
alessando he is a true hero

1452
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,680
thank you so much i appreciate sorry to

1453
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,760
cut you out tyler but mark thank you so

1454
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:37,200
much because i think that was warranted

1455
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,760
and needed and i think yeah i agree 100

1456
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,839
sorry tyler go ahead my friend

1457
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:46,240
no i'm just i'm just mirroring exactly

1458
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,440
what mark is uh expressing right now

1459
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,599
because there's been a lot of

1460
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,079
disinformation content out there or

1461
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,960
propaganda so to speak that said anyone

1462
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,480
that came out of the military as a

1463
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,559
whistleblower is deliberately

1464
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:02,079
sharing disinformation and it's

1465
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,680
orchestrated from inside of the defense

1466
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:05,359
department and i don't think that's the

1467
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:07,839
case and even with my experience in the

1468
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,000
military you know stepping out of line

1469
01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:12,559
and going beyond your chain of command

1470
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,799
and bypassing your superiors to share

1471
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:17,280
information that is highly sensitive and

1472
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:20,799
is going to alter the fabric of society

1473
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,799
takes a tremendous amount of courage and

1474
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,559
the repercussions and the implications

1475
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,760
of doing so are outside of the scope of

1476
01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:29,760
someone's understanding who is not in

1477
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:32,079
that situation you know we don't know

1478
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:34,000
what it's like to be loyal zondo i

1479
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,520
didn't work in the

1480
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,599
advanced aerospace threat identification

1481
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:39,440
program researching

1482
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,319
the the phenomenon for decades and then

1483
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:45,119
going against my higher-ups to say this

1484
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:46,400
needs to be shared with the american

1485
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:47,680
people

1486
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:49,680
you know i think that

1487
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,480
there's something to be said for the for

1488
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:55,440
the commitment for the people and the

1489
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:58,160
fact that he has daniel sheehan behind

1490
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:01,280
him representing him and holding him

1491
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:02,720
together and saying we're going to do

1492
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,760
this and we're going to get through this

1493
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:05,599
situation and what whatever is going to

1494
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:07,039
be on the other side of this is going to

1495
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,160
be a better world for everybody and just

1496
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:12,240
the fact that danny is going to be

1497
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,520
sticking by

1498
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:15,359
lou throughout throughout this entire

1499
01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:16,559
process

1500
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,319
even if

1501
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:20,240
how do i put this how do i how do i say

1502
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:20,960
this

1503
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:23,119
i'm standing next to danny through any

1504
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,680
storm and fire yeah absolutely it

1505
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,640
whatever danny feels is going to be

1506
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,240
uh

1507
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,640
crucial for this closure and to move

1508
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:34,480
this entire subject matter forward i'm

1509
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,400
standing behind danny and if danny's

1510
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,319
standing behind blue i'm standing behind

1511
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:40,480
lou and that's the way and that's the

1512
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:42,799
way that i'm moving forward is as a team

1513
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,319
i personally

1514
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,280
one of the main reasons that had like

1515
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:48,960
excuse me one of the main reasons that i

1516
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:51,039
had to step away for that month and i

1517
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:52,799
had to unplug myself from all the social

1518
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,280
medias because the internet just became

1519
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:57,359
and specifically with the ufology

1520
01:03:01,829 --> 01:02:59,280
subculture the entire subject matter

1521
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:01,839
just became an echo chamber of people

1522
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:04,160
trying to validate their opinions based

1523
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,760
on opposition confrontation segregation

1524
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,680
and division based on i'm right you're

1525
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,920
wrong us versus them click click click

1526
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,400
brand brand brand and we lost the actual

1527
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:16,640
intention and the entire reason why

1528
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:18,160
we're all in this in the first place it

1529
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:19,680
doesn't matter if your disclosure team

1530
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,680
it doesn't matter if your new paradigm

1531
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:22,960
institute if you're associated with

1532
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:25,280
contact tour all of these little

1533
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:28,079
footprints and affiliations are mundane

1534
01:03:31,349 --> 01:03:29,680
and artificial and synthetic and they

1535
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:31,359
truly don't mean anything

1536
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,079
behind all of these portals of internet

1537
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,400
profiles are just people like you and i

1538
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,400
that want to further our understanding

1539
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:40,160
of this phenomenon for the betterment of

1540
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:42,640
everybody yeah that's all that's all

1541
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:44,559
that's all that we're trying to get to

1542
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,079
yeah and then one thing i will just

1543
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,680
sorry to interrupt but we'll just

1544
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:49,599
address the trolls here

1545
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:51,039
i've got someone saying that anyone who

1546
01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:52,319
doesn't agree with vinnie would get

1547
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:53,839
kicked out that is absolutely not the

1548
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:55,599
truth what i don't like seeing is

1549
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,760
someone that puts in capital letters

1550
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,119
loose sucks

1551
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:01,359
listen i appreciate your point of view

1552
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:02,799
but if when you're throwing it out like

1553
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:04,480
you're shouting in capitals with lou

1554
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,160
sucks why don't you come with a better

1555
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:08,000
statement as to why you think loose

1556
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,240
sucks speak like a grown-up speak

1557
01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:12,559
maturely and give an opinion when you

1558
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:14,079
shout loose sucks you sound like you're

1559
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:15,920
in the position

1560
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:18,960
that's exactly that's a perfect example

1561
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:21,440
that that was a perfect example that was

1562
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,640
a primer as to what i just said because

1563
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:27,119
everyone is a self-proclaimed

1564
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:29,680
intelligence specialist on the subject

1565
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,599
matter people are giving themselves

1566
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:33,280
titles and expressing their opinions

1567
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:35,680
without actually offering any kind of

1568
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,400
constructive input exactly

1569
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,480
and the people and the people that are

1570
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:42,319
out here trying to

1571
01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:43,839
not trying to but are actually

1572
01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,000
dedicating their life and their time and

1573
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:48,319
their energy and their resources to

1574
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:50,559
further progressing the conversation and

1575
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,319
offering something worth value that's

1576
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:54,000
constructive

1577
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:55,760
they're they're being undermined by all

1578
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:58,319
of these uh ankle-biting comments of

1579
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,880
people that are just trying to get

1580
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:02,880
to their nerves or whatever their agenda

1581
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:05,359
is and that's why i took a step back

1582
01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:08,240
because i just i i needed to decompress

1583
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:10,480
and to and to create space and distance

1584
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:11,440
between

1585
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:12,319
the

1586
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:17,520
targeting and and in some instances

1587
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:20,480
straight up harassment because like

1588
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:21,920
you know how it can get out here really

1589
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:22,799
fast

1590
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:24,880
um but yeah but to put to ground the

1591
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:26,880
conversation back in and

1592
01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:28,720
and to just uh

1593
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:30,799
finish up i guess the statement here is

1594
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,520
like i lose intentions are true

1595
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,680
he is a patriot he's looking out for the

1596
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:37,440
best interest of

1597
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:40,480
his human family and

1598
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:41,920
i'm grateful that he came out and did

1599
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,079
what he did if it wasn't thanks to lou

1600
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:45,839
back in 2017

1601
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:47,440
but with going through the proper

1602
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,559
channels to have this footage

1603
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,559
declassified the conversation would not

1604
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:52,160
be where it is right now

1605
01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:54,880
you wouldn't have millions of people

1606
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:56,559
now finding out about this information

1607
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,160
and all of the other

1608
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:00,319
platforms and networks that are starting

1609
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,480
to cover this subject if lou didn't come

1610
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,960
out back in 2017 with this information

1611
01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:06,559
do you think 60 minutes would have done

1612
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:08,559
an entire piece about this

1613
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:10,799
do you think that the other pilots

1614
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:12,160
would come out and share their

1615
01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:15,039
testimonial as well no lou was the

1616
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:17,920
catalyst for people to have the courage

1617
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,680
and to step forward and

1618
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:21,599
and speak their truth

1619
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:23,440
so if you can't respect that

1620
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,200
you know that's that's for you to figure

1621
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,200
out and like i said in that statement

1622
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:29,039
i'm all for people having a difference

1623
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:32,000
of opinion but come at it in a

1624
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,599
level playing field with a dialogue

1625
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:35,039
where we could go back and forth there's

1626
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:35,839
no

1627
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:40,400
um so that that's all i've ever asked

1628
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:42,559
from anybody so if anybody thinks bad of

1629
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,960
me it really doesn't bother me because i

1630
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,880
know where i'm at and i know the people

1631
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:49,039
that i have conversations with

1632
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,000
i do this every single day of my life so

1633
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:54,000
yeah you know and and and the

1634
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:57,119
conversations that we have that that

1635
01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:59,119
mark sims has a platform vinnie has a

1636
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,839
platform i have a platform we shouldn't

1637
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:03,760
be having these conversations directed

1638
01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:06,720
at individuals or people because that's

1639
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,520
a very surface level and confrontational

1640
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,280
approach to addressing these types of

1641
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,119
things talking about the people that are

1642
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,839
doing x y and z we need to have a bigger

1643
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,520
conversation that's broader from a

1644
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:19,280
higher state of consciousness addressing

1645
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:20,799
the actual issue

1646
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,960
not the people that are trying to tackle

1647
01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:25,200
the issue but the actual issue itself as

1648
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,799
a whole and that's why i think the

1649
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:28,400
making contact convergence is going to

1650
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:30,640
be such a powerful event because we're

1651
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:34,000
transcending all of these superficial

1652
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:35,359
constructs that have been separating

1653
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:37,520
everyone for literally decades and we're

1654
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:39,440
bringing everyone onto one panel who

1655
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:41,440
have completely different world views

1656
01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:43,839
completely different ideological beliefs

1657
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:45,680
a completely different interpretation

1658
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,520
and experience with the phenomenon and

1659
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:48,799
we're going to have some kind of

1660
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,240
consensual

1661
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:52,319
conversation about what the nature of

1662
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:54,640
this phenomenon is yeah and that is the

1663
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,319
most beneficial thing that's probably

1664
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,119
happened since the 2001 press club event

1665
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,520
for example we have eric weinstein

1666
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:04,160
who had no affiliation whatsoever with

1667
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:06,880
the ufology subculture and has been uh

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01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,319
quoted stigmatizing it and criticizing

1669
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:12,880
it very heavily but then after two

1670
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:15,119
conversations with daniel sheehan his

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01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:17,199
entire paradigm is 180 and now he's

1672
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,279
participating and potentially the

1673
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:20,960
biggest online conference about the

1674
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,359
subject matter that's ever taken place

1675
01:08:28,149 --> 01:08:26,239
so we're bringing people from outside of

1676
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:28,159
this world into this world who are going

1677
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:29,279
to offer

1678
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:31,199
valid opinions that are going to help

1679
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:33,120
people that are outside of this world

1680
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,679
integrate and process the information

1681
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:37,679
so it's the making contact convergence

1682
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,600
is going to be something that you are

1683
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,199
going to want to participate in because

1684
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,199
it's going to be a pivotal point for the

1685
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:45,120
entire movement of disclosure and you

1686
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:46,640
want to be there and you want to use

1687
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:56,950
oh you're muted in it

1688
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,309
didn't want anyone to hear my heavy

1689
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,759
breathing because i'm getting passionate

1690
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:01,359
you know this is exactly like what tyler

1691
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,560
was saying it's like we're coming at

1692
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,480
this from different angles me and tyler

1693
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:06,159
we come from different sides but we

1694
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:07,920
found this this place in the middle

1695
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,239
where we can have open discussion learn

1696
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,400
from each other take things on board

1697
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:14,239
without the kind of people that just

1698
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,199
throw

1699
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,520
ridiculous slander and

1700
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,520
negative words out there you know we can

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01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,960
genuinely learn of each other in a

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01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,759
mature honest way that we all are

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01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:25,679
looking up and forwards in in the right

1704
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:27,040
direction so for everyone that thinks

1705
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:28,560
they're being clever in the comments

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01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:29,759
like

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01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,359
where's it gonna get you where is it

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01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:33,040
gonna get you you're gonna go away

1709
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:34,319
thinking you've made a clever comment

1710
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:36,239
and that's like i've had my nights made

1711
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,120
like

1712
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,040
i'm sorry guys you really aren't

1713
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,880
elevating yourself high enough like for

1714
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,040
what you want to achieve have an open

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01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:45,359
discussion with quality

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01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,480
like

1717
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,239
i don't really know where to go with it

1718
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,480
maybe i'm feeding the trolls too much

1719
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,239
and i i would like to share something

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01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,960
because we we are in the process of

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01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:56,480
getting the new paradigm institute off

1722
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,840
the ground and i'd like to give an

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01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:00,000
example of potentially what some of that

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01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,120
coursework and what some of that

1725
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:03,280
curriculum might be like and mark i'd

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01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,440
love to show them the the condensed

1727
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,120
version of the thesis paper that was put

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01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,520
into the presentation really briefly to

1729
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:11,440
show them that so i'm going to go ahead

1730
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:13,040
and open that up and i'll share my

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01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:15,040
screen here and everyone can and

1732
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:16,320
everyone can have a look at this and

1733
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:18,719
this entire thesis uh excuse me this

1734
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,560
thesis presentation is based off of the

1735
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,320
white paper created by

1736
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:23,600
daniel sheehan so i'm going to go ahead

1737
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:25,280
and share my screen

1738
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:28,719
uh don't show again okay share screen

1739
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:32,239
window it's gonna be

1740
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,520
all right here we go

1741
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:35,199
so i've never shared my screen through

1742
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:36,000
um

1743
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:37,440
here we go

1744
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,679
chrome has lost permission to capture

1745
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:42,080
screen hold on one moment don't worry

1746
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,960
man we'll get there we'll get there

1747
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,520
okay so i have to on my mac go to system

1748
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,360
oh that's why i have to enable it in my

1749
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:51,840
security preferences here

1750
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,800
got it

1751
01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:55,040
that's my bad guys i keep everything

1752
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:58,239
turned off

1753
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,600
can you blame me though can you blame me

1754
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:01,440
for having all my firewalls up no no

1755
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,550
okay there we go so i'm going to try to

1756
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:09,520
share my screen again let's do it okay

1757
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,840
here we

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01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:13,440
go has lost permission oh i just turned

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01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:14,960
it back on

1760
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:16,560
that's strange

1761
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:18,239
maybe i have to go into my privacy sorry

1762
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,000
for the inconvenience guys no no no not

1763
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,239
at all man no no problem whatsoever

1764
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,400
it'll be worth the wait

1765
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,480
it's it's it's a pretty extensive it's a

1766
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:28,719
pretty extensive presentation here

1767
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:31,679
okay indicates use application okay

1768
01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:35,360
details enable location services okay

1769
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:36,480
yeah that's the thing they want to know

1770
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:40,239
where my location is i'm like

1771
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,520
maybe not

1772
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:44,000
okay i'm gonna try one more time

1773
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:46,239
and if it doesn't work i apologize

1774
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:48,800
oh good man all good not a problem

1775
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,630
no it's not letting me share that's so

1776
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,760
bizarre

1777
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:57,280
i wonder if you can just talk us through

1778
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,719
it if you want to if he's got it on your

1779
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:00,159
screen you can do that

1780
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,880
why why don't i um pull it up i've got

1781
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:04,320
it here on my channel

1782
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,760
that's right mark mark does have it

1783
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:07,520
that'd be convenient thank you fabulous

1784
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:08,400
thank you

1785
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:10,880
just grab it real quick tyler should i

1786
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:13,040
think i can pull it up

1787
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:14,640
yeah my computer my computer is just

1788
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:21,350
we're not giving chrome that access

1789
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:24,560
let's see i'm trying to remember

1790
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,440
uh

1791
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,840
when you sent that to me

1792
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,280
i could forward you the link through

1793
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,600
email if you'd like mark

1794
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,440
yeah go ahead

1795
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,159
i'll have that over to you in the next

1796
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,320
30 seconds

1797
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,000
there we go

1798
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:42,960
there's always the private chat as well

1799
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:45,280
oh can i send a link through there yeah

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01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,640
cool i'm just going to do that then it's

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01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:48,159
going to come through you to uh the

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01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,520
private chat mark

1803
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,360
okay great there it is and now ben you

1804
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,719
happy for your reference too if you want

1805
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:54,640
to go through it got it thank you so

1806
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:56,719
much yeah that's great

1807
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,920
uh so here i think i can just link

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01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,120
on it

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01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:03,120
fantastic

1810
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,640
and um

1811
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:06,880
so i'll just share my screen with

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01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:08,960
everyone

1813
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:10,960
let's see here

1814
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:12,560
and i feel it's important to share this

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01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,320
because as mark mentioned you know

1816
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:15,760
throughout this live stream the new

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01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,679
paradigm institute is going to have a

1818
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:19,760
curriculum of different courses that

1819
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,679
people can participate in that teach

1820
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:23,520
them about the spiritual sciences the

1821
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,239
noetic sciences consciousness

1822
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,640
extraterrestrial context and an entirely

1823
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:30,480
new paradigm of science

1824
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,239
and it's going to be covering the

1825
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:34,480
philosophical theological

1826
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,640
the psychological the cultural and

1827
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:38,880
political implications of e.t contact in

1828
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:41,440
the new paradigm

1829
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:42,480
right

1830
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,840
so uh

1831
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:46,560
let's see here i'm uh i think you can

1832
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:48,400
see this but i'm just wondering if it

1833
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,360
would be best for me to uh you could

1834
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,520
full screen it right there on the bottom

1835
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:55,440
it's this is the second yeah there you

1836
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,159
go the two arrows there you go

1837
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,080
all right why don't you uh go through

1838
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:02,560
and i'll all um

1839
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,920
i'll uh

1840
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,480
advance it as you need okay thank you

1841
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:07,920
mark i appreciate it

1842
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,719
so

1843
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:11,920
this is a condensed presentation that

1844
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:14,080
was based on the thesis paper written by

1845
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:15,760
daniel sheehan for the new paradigm

1846
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,480
institute titled defining and exploring

1847
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,640
our world views so

1848
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,640
a thesis originally by daniel sheehan

1849
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:24,640
and i put together the presentation to

1850
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:26,000
to condense it

1851
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,960
so

1852
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:29,120
this is the the fundamental essence of

1853
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:30,880
this entire presentation that it's our

1854
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,199
belief that the pathway to world peace

1855
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,360
is the transition of adherence to the

1856
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:37,280
eight specific world views from their

1857
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:39,840
present often unconscious adherence to

1858
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:42,480
the ten keep component beliefs of the

1859
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,960
lower manifestation of a given worldview

1860
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:46,239
so i'm just going to keep this really

1861
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,920
simple and really basic i'm not going to

1862
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:49,600
read it word for word because it can get

1863
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:52,560
pretty dense so essentially there was a

1864
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:55,520
worldview spectrum of seven different

1865
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,520
world views that range from a far right

1866
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,000
systematist to a far left systematist

1867
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,719
and as example the far right systematist

1868
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:04,960
is an authoritarian totalitarian

1869
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:06,159
worldview

1870
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,600
and then the far left systematist is

1871
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,520
going to be the

1872
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:12,719
you have the liberal you have the

1873
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,600
progressive then you have the utopian so

1874
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:17,280
it's going to be a more

1875
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:20,880
unified wholesome

1876
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:23,440
singularity of a worldview rather than

1877
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:26,000
the oppositional being on the far right

1878
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,120
and now there's the higher

1879
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,199
manifestations and the lower

1880
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,679
manifestations of each world view so on

1881
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,760
the far right end of the syst the far

1882
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:35,840
right systematist of the authoritarian

1883
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:37,760
and the totalitarian and even the

1884
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,800
reactionary worldview is an oppositional

1885
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:42,640
ideological philosophical and

1886
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:45,520
theological belief systems that separate

1887
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:46,880
us so pretty much

1888
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,640
me not getting along with you because

1889
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,480
i'm christian and you're mormon or

1890
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:52,800
you're jewish and i'm muslim the fact

1891
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,280
that a lower manifestation of this is we

1892
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,199
cannot coexist because we have different

1893
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:59,679
religious belief systems when i believe

1894
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,960
that and it's the belief of the new

1895
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,880
paradigm institute that regardless of

1896
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:05,280
whoever you pray to we can get along and

1897
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:07,600
we can coexist together and that doesn't

1898
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,480
make me undervalue you or you undervalue

1899
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:12,080
me like we are going to be equals and

1900
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:13,840
we're going to get along together so a

1901
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:16,000
lower manifestation is that even though

1902
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:17,920
we have different religious beliefs we

1903
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:19,199
can't get along

1904
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,000
also confrontational resolutions

1905
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:24,480
to collective obstacles we don't have to

1906
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,560
be in confrontation with each other we

1907
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:28,320
need to have conversations in open

1908
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:29,920
dialogue rather than attacking and

1909
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,080
getting into conflicts with each other

1910
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,040
so scarcity poverty and famine are

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01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,840
directly resulting from unequal resource

1912
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:39,760
delegation and again lower

1913
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,239
manifestations of a given worldview and

1914
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:44,640
also the separation and segregation like

1915
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:46,239
i just mentioned caused by religious

1916
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:49,760
beliefs ethnicity geographical location

1917
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:51,440
your citizenship or your political

1918
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,920
association these are all man-made

1919
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,920
constructs that keep us separated and

1920
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:57,840
until we transcend these constructs

1921
01:17:02,550 --> 01:16:58,960
we're not going to be able to get along

1922
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,070
and now these are the opposite these are

1923
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:06,880
the higher manifestations so an integral

1924
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,800
ideological philosophical and

1925
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,719
theological belief system like we just

1926
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:12,560
mentioned vinnie if you're a christian

1927
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:14,159
i'm a catholic or i'm muslim and you're

1928
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,760
jewish we are going to coexist together

1929
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,760
and i'm going to respect your beliefs

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01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,199
and you'll respect mine and that's a

1931
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:21,360
very unifying approach peaceful

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01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,600
resolution to collective obstacles we

1933
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,199
don't have to be in war with each other

1934
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:27,920
to figure out how we can overcome the

1935
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,159
these hurdles that our human family is

1936
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:32,800
confronting security abundance and

1937
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,760
prosperity is all about how we delegate

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01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,080
our resources and as an example

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01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,320
the united states in the last 10 years

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01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,480
in our defense budget we spent over 23

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01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:45,679
trillion dollars in creating weapons and

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01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:48,719
deploying mechanized units to go impose

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01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:49,440
our

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01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:51,840
democracy in other countries if we just

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01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:55,280
redelegated that 23 trillion dollars of

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01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:58,640
the taxpayer money and the civilian uh

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01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,239
financial system

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01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,320
we could have a world that has security

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01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:04,400
abundance and prosperity for everybody

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01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:06,080
so it's not that we're lacking in any

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01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:07,760
sense or that we don't have enough it's

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01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:10,239
just what we do have isn't being managed

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01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:12,400
in an intentional way

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01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:14,000
and just the last point right there is

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01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:16,960
cooperation and coexistence which is

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01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,480
tying in those first three points

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01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:20,239
together so

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01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:24,159
just cooperation and coexistence

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01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:25,840
so mark what i actually want to do is i

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01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:27,520
want to jump down to the end of the

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01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:29,920
presentation because i think the eighth

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01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:32,239
paradigm is primarily what i want to

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01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:34,960
focus on and as you can see this entire

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01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,679
presentation is it's pretty dense so

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01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:39,199
that's why i'm going to let you have

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01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,640
this link venue so if you want to go

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01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:42,880
through it dedicate a night pour

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01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,480
yourself some coffee pour yourself your

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01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,719
red wine and go through this

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01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,239
because it is

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01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,880
oh i will it's definitely a read you can

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01:18:53,830 --> 01:18:52,400
go down a little bit more mark it's it's

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01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:53,840
towards the end it's it's the eighth

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01:19:03,270 --> 01:18:59,350
so that was just going through here we

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01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:06,070
no scroll up one more

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01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:08,320
scroll up scroll up one more i believe

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01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:11,040
okay so this this this is it right here

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01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:12,880
the readiness for contact and this

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01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:14,400
pertains to the conversation that we're

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01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:15,920
having with the making contact

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01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,320
convergence extraterrestrials and how we

1982
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:19,679
address this issue

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01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,080
so the readiness for contact is our work

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01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,239
to develop and spread the post-contact

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01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,320
eighth paradigm worldview has the

1986
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,239
possibility to show intelligent

1987
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,239
extraterrestrial life forms that we are

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01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:32,640
preparing for contact with

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01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:36,000
uh are here and we have to reduce the

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01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,719
natural response of fear and uh

1991
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,719
conflict and hostility that our human

1992
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:44,800
family may have towards them because i

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01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:46,480
mean it could be a natural fight or

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01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,080
flight response that if we are

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01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:50,400
interacting with an off-world species

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01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:51,199
that

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01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:52,480
you know

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01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:53,840
we're going to have to tame ourselves

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01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,679
similar to what mark was sharing with

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01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,080
his experience with tejbar he had to sit

2001
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:00,880
there and consciously fight his flight

2002
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:03,199
or fight response and that's kind of

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01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:04,880
what we need to do collectively we need

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01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,840
to recondition ourselves to

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01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:09,440
accept

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01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:11,440
different species so we have to

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01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,080
transcend something called humanism and

2008
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:15,760
then we have to transcend racism and

2009
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:17,120
then we're at the forefront of

2010
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,480
speciesism

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01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:20,560
so now we're gonna have to inter

2012
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:23,679
interact with each other and realize um

2013
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,840
through these conversations that we are

2014
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,280
going to be face to face with different

2015
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,440
species at some point in our lifetime

2016
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:31,199
how are we gonna handle it how are we

2017
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:32,400
gonna process it how are we gonna

2018
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,239
integrate it so that's what that slides

2019
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:36,480
about is just reducing the hostility and

2020
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,229
is that all you wanted to share

2021
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,239
no we can we can scroll down through the

2022
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:48,000
it's only i think three four three or

2023
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,320
four more slides uh so this is the

2024
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,239
important reason as to why we need to

2025
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,080
integrate this eighth paradigm world

2026
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:56,320
view is because right now we're only

2027
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,920
operating from these other seven

2028
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,679
distinct world views on the worldview

2029
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:01,440
spectrum but

2030
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,840
all of them in a way more or less are

2031
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,600
separate from each other now the eighth

2032
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:07,199
paradigm worldview is going to be a

2033
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,040
unifying worldview that brings us to a

2034
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,840
collective consensus that we start

2035
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:14,159
seeing one another as being humans and

2036
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:15,679
we start seeing each other as being a

2037
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,080
part of the same family as a species and

2038
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,080
i'm not looking at vinnie because okay

2039
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:22,719
vinnie is caucasian he's from the uk

2040
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:25,360
he he has blonde hair blue eyes and i'm

2041
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:26,639
from the united states and i'm this and

2042
01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:28,639
i'm that what this eighth paradigm is

2043
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,719
going to bring it to our human family is

2044
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,360
a newfound connection to one another

2045
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:35,600
that we are just this one sentient

2046
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:37,760
conscious species on our planet and

2047
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,440
that's what the eighth paradigm is and

2048
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:41,280
from that place we can begin having

2049
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:43,679
interactions with off-world life forms

2050
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:51,030
and this is this is one i really find is

2051
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,639
the most important out of the new out of

2052
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,480
the new paradigm of the eighth world

2053
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:56,159
view excuse me the eighth paradigm of

2054
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:58,880
the new world view the cosmic theology

2055
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:00,080
so

2056
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:01,760
in the unlikely event that the

2057
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:04,000
extraterrestrials we encounter do not

2058
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,760
have a theology meaning that they have

2059
01:22:10,750 --> 01:22:08,080
no kind of spiritual development we just

2060
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:10,760
meet et's and they have no grounded

2061
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:13,760
conceptualization about spirituality we

2062
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,040
will need a cosmic or non-homeosapiens

2063
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:19,280
center theology so that means

2064
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:21,360
the the theological aspect of this

2065
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:23,360
conversation needs to be how do we

2066
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:26,080
adjust our religious belief systems that

2067
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:28,960
humans are not at the top of the

2068
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,040
pyramid of creation or not the pinnacle

2069
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,520
life form in the entire cosmos how do we

2070
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,520
adjust all of our religious institutions

2071
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,040
and how do we have these conversations

2072
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,360
with these theologians to integrate the

2073
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,600
fact that the universe wasn't just made

2074
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,679
for us and there's infinite life out

2075
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,280
there in the universe that could take on

2076
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,000
the form of being humanoid so

2077
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:50,560
we have to create a non-homeostatic

2078
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,960
sapien center theology that's all

2079
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,560
inclusive to life out there in the

2080
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:56,639
universe and that that's really what our

2081
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:58,480
main mission is with the new paradigm

2082
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:00,880
institute uh and just i think it's one

2083
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:03,280
more slide after this and that's it

2084
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:06,800
i believe that's the last one

2085
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,080
okay

2086
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:10,320
a good thing to do in any event and this

2087
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,239
is an exact quotation from the thesis

2088
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,400
paper that daniel written excuse me

2089
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,639
daniel wrote the creation and spread of

2090
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:19,040
a cosmic theology which is not focused

2091
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,440
exclusively on humans will be a positive

2092
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,920
step forward for humanity

2093
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,520
i'll read that sentence one more time

2094
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:27,760
and really let that sink in the creation

2095
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:29,040
and the spread

2096
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:31,920
of a cosmic theology so in essence a

2097
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:34,239
different word for theology would be a

2098
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,199
spiritual identity a cosmic spiritual

2099
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,360
identity which is not

2100
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,760
again which is not focused exclusively

2101
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:43,679
on humans because we're dealing with

2102
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,000
potentially non-human life forms will be

2103
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:48,880
a positive step forward for humanity

2104
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:50,960
we can develop a better sense of what is

2105
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:53,280
true we can develop human spirituality

2106
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:55,920
from a fresh perspective freed from all

2107
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:57,920
perspectives and formulations of the

2108
01:24:02,390 --> 01:24:01,199
distant past and which we still largely

2109
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:02,400
use

2110
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,840
and i think that's really something that

2111
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:07,440
hit me on an entirely different level

2112
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:08,800
when i was going through this thesis

2113
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:12,239
paper that the fact we can reestablish

2114
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:15,199
all of our theological understandings

2115
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,719
of us as a species and off-world species

2116
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,639
that is going to be a positive step

2117
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,040
forward for our entire human family and

2118
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,760
our planet and that's that's really the

2119
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:27,440
entire um

2120
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:30,480
outline and the end goal of people going

2121
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:31,840
through and and reading this

2122
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,960
presentation is that we we need to adopt

2123
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:36,880
new philosophies and new and new

2124
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,679
paradigms that allow us to have peaceful

2125
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:41,440
interactions with non-human life forms

2126
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:42,880
that are off planet

2127
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:44,880
and uh i think that's it i think that's

2128
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,239
pretty much the bulk of it i guess

2129
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:47,920
there's a few more slides after that but

2130
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:49,920
again it's very

2131
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:52,400
i really love this slide too and tyler

2132
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,679
by the way

2133
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:55,600
you know i've said it to you before but

2134
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,239
i just have to you know give kudos to

2135
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,400
you for all the work you put into this

2136
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,000
because that

2137
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:04,719
paper that daniel originally wrote for

2138
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:07,679
the new paradigm institute was so dense

2139
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,880
and you synthesized out of it this

2140
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:13,199
presentation which is

2141
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:14,719
so well done

2142
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,520
um

2143
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:18,480
and you you grabbed all the graphics and

2144
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:21,920
the imagery that like the watermark here

2145
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:24,960
of devil's tower or bear lodge as the

2146
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:27,360
natives call it i mean it's just

2147
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:29,600
beautifully beautifully done

2148
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,960
and will become a document at that will

2149
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:35,040
become one of the first

2150
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:36,080
uh

2151
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,120
pieces we'll archive on the website for

2152
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:41,840
the making contact uh convergence so

2153
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,719
people can download this and read it and

2154
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,560
i just want to give make sure that

2155
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:48,800
people know that you deserve the credit

2156
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:49,520
for

2157
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:53,760
and it's just every one of these slides

2158
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:55,840
is relevant and interesting and

2159
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:58,239
pertinent to the whole discussion

2160
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,400
that we're engaging in

2161
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:02,320
uh and that we

2162
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:05,199
hope will eventually lead to

2163
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:07,520
preparing the human family for first

2164
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:09,679
contact

2165
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:11,440
thank you mark i i really appreciate it

2166
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:13,840
it was it was a heavy read it took me a

2167
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,600
couple months to go through that that

2168
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:17,360
entire thesis paper

2169
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:20,080
uh because what you described it's it's

2170
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:21,280
dense

2171
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:23,840
when you sent it to me danny happened to

2172
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:26,000
be with me at my house

2173
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,480
and i immediately started reading

2174
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:30,719
through it and showed it to him and he's

2175
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,760
like wow this is really good

2176
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:35,280
so

2177
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,000
you know he was impressed too i i just

2178
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:40,560
watched him uh you know about a half

2179
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,880
hour ago saying hey you've got to come

2180
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,719
and watch us on disclosure team right

2181
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:46,719
now because

2182
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:49,440
tyler is on with me and he now you know

2183
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,480
of course you

2184
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:53,120
came and saved our butts doing the video

2185
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:54,639
taping of me and danny for the

2186
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:57,199
promotional video for the harmonic

2187
01:27:02,229 --> 01:26:59,040
urgence or the making contact

2188
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,239
convergence and uh and we got a chance

2189
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,199
to spend the weekend together and he got

2190
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:07,199
just thinks the world of you tyler he

2191
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,400
really does

2192
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:10,000
well thank you it's mutual i mean

2193
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:11,520
anybody that

2194
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:13,679
i've said this on on other platforms and

2195
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:15,199
other interviews but anyone that

2196
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:18,000
dedicates any amount of their life to

2197
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,679
researching this phenomenon and getting

2198
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:22,159
the information out there i have the

2199
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:23,679
utmost respect for you and we're all on

2200
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,480
the same team here so it's it's mutual

2201
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,920
for every single one of you guys i mean

2202
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,920
for for vinnie for mark for danny for

2203
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:32,080
anyone else in the space i'm just i'm

2204
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:33,360
just grateful to be involved in the

2205
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:35,920
conversation and thank you to danny for

2206
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:38,000
taking the last couple of decades to

2207
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:39,840
write that thesis paper

2208
01:27:45,910 --> 01:27:44,080
right because it's it's almost like

2209
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:45,920
the best way i can describe it is i

2210
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:48,000
think danny may have cracked the theory

2211
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,320
of everything

2212
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:52,480
he may have he may have done it because

2213
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,159
when i was reading this i was like this

2214
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,480
kind of this covers everything because

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01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:58,320
because the entire thesis paper talks

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01:28:03,030 --> 01:27:59,199
about

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01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:03,040
like ontology epis uh epistemology uh

2218
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,199
cosmo uh cosmology

2219
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:08,159
theology philosophy quantum mechanics

2220
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,679
like it's all in just one one document

2221
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:13,840
and uh it took it it literally took me

2222
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:16,239
months to go through that and and to

2223
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:17,760
read it

2224
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:20,159
and we we can't forget to give credit

2225
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,600
also to dr john mack uh yeah absolutely

2226
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:25,679
contributing to that that really

2227
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:29,040
was with a lot of his ideas as well

2228
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:30,080
so

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01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,199
you you

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01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,280
those people listening that will have

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01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:35,520
access to this document and coming

2232
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:38,000
through are making contact conversions

2233
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:39,360
you're really

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01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:43,280
seeing the work of decades of passion

2235
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:45,440
and energy and

2236
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:48,639
commitment by some of the greatest minds

2237
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:52,400
uh on this topic that are alive and not

2238
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,159
alive

2239
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:56,320
and and we have are now the new

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01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:58,400
torchbearers myself

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01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,600
tyler who clearly sees himself as one of

2242
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:03,520
the torchbearers bringing forth this

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01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:06,639
information and and promoting and

2244
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:08,840
advocating for peaceful

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01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:12,639
contact uh it's it's so critical

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01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:13,920
and uh

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01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:15,120
and we're

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01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,960
all blessed to to be in the in the role

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01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:19,760
of

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helping

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01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,040
and

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01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:27,120
you know uh

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01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:29,199
inspire people

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01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,800
and i'm just going to say danny if you

2255
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:32,880
happen to be watching this or if you

2256
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:34,960
watch this after the fact please come

2257
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:36,880
and join us at a later date maybe after

2258
01:29:41,030 --> 01:29:38,800
your work you know slowed down after the

2259
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,040
the making contact convergence is done

2260
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:43,360
and dusted please come back and join us

2261
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:45,440
along with tyler and mark again we'd

2262
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:47,360
love to just you know jump on and see

2263
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,440
how everything went but for everybody

2264
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:51,360
watching please

2265
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,480
just consider

2266
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:55,199
joining and going to see the event and

2267
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:57,120
and you know having a new outlook on

2268
01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:58,400
things because like i said i'm going to

2269
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:59,280
be

2270
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,360
looking into that this is a new avenue

2271
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:03,840
for me i'm open to these things like

2272
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,960
tyler said we may all be different and

2273
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,560
from different angles of this subject

2274
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,239
but we're all looking for the same thing

2275
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:12,000
at the end of the day so let's come

2276
01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:14,320
together let's not argue or fight let's

2277
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:16,719
just find that kind of peace or common

2278
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:17,840
ground

2279
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:19,760
right exactly let's find the unity in

2280
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:21,199
the conversation

2281
01:30:23,910 --> 01:30:22,800
because it's it's

2282
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:23,920
it's time

2283
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:26,800
it's definitely it's well it's well

2284
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,440
overdue it's it's extremely overdue at

2285
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:31,360
this point and

2286
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,880
there's no reason why we can't make it

2287
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:34,560
happen i mean we are making it happen

2288
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,120
it's happening on august 18th the 22nd

2289
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,280
so come join us and be a part of history

2290
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:41,440
in the making and it's going to be a

2291
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,600
historic conversation and there's going

2292
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:46,159
to be i have a good intuitive feeling

2293
01:30:48,629 --> 01:30:46,880
that there's going to be some

2294
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:48,639
revelations to come out of it and maybe

2295
01:30:53,189 --> 01:30:50,800
information that's you know going to be

2296
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:53,199
new for everybody so

2297
01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:55,520
come check it out it's going to be great

2298
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:58,000
absolutely listen gentlemen thank you so

2299
01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:59,199
much

2300
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:01,280
we probably could carry on for hours and

2301
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:03,120
hours but let's do this again maybe

2302
01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:05,280
after the event catch up again in the

2303
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:08,159
future um any of the

2304
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:09,280
links and stuff that we've shared

2305
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:11,120
tonight i will add to the description so

2306
01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:12,719
everybody watching now and in the future

2307
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:14,960
can go and take their own time into

2308
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:16,960
looking over everything and really get a

2309
01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:18,400
good grasp on what we've been talking

2310
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:20,719
about so um gentlemen if you could hang

2311
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:22,000
around afterwards and we just have a

2312
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:23,600
little debrief after i've said goodbye

2313
01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:25,760
to everyone i'd appreciate that okay

2314
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,159
great don't forget to buy your ticket

2315
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:30,800
the price is going to go up on the 16th

2316
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:32,000
uh so

2317
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:34,800
249 is the list price for the ticket

2318
01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:38,639
with vinnie save 100 you save 100 that's

2319
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:41,840
149 that'll be the best 149 you've ever

2320
01:31:46,629 --> 01:31:44,000
spent in your life yeah and then and

2321
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:46,639
then the total value just comes to 30 a

2322
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,040
day and you get to see an incredible

2323
01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:51,360
panel of the leaders

2324
01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:54,080
pathfinders way showers and pioneers in

2325
01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:56,560
the entire space

2326
01:32:01,350 --> 01:31:59,760
absolutely gentlemen thank you so much

2327
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:01,360
i really it really means the world that

2328
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:03,520
my eyes are open i'm so

2329
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:04,880
looking forward to seeing what's going

2330
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:06,239
to happen in the future especially in

2331
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:07,600
the next few months with everything you

2332
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,440
guys are doing and the community as a

2333
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,440
whole so thank you so much it means the

2334
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:13,440
world thanks for having us vinnie it's

2335
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:16,080
good chatting with you again no problem

2336
01:32:22,310 --> 01:32:21,270
guys

2337
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:22,320
wow

2338
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:24,400
that was incredible thank you so much to

2339
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,920
everyone that joined us thank you to

2340
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:28,880
mark thank you to tyler this is a new

2341
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:31,040
direction for all of us and i think we

2342
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:32,880
all need to just stick together and and

2343
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:35,280
just be open to all the possibilities

2344
01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:38,560
with this subject with the phenomena and

2345
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,639
all of what we might see in the future

2346
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:42,400
we we've got to stop relying on things

2347
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:44,320
like the government and

2348
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:45,520
things like that and we've got to start

2349
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:47,600
doing it for ourselves as as citizens

2350
01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:49,120
and that so

2351
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:50,639
yeah that's really given me a lot of

2352
01:32:54,310 --> 01:32:52,800
food for thought i hope it has for you

2353
01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:54,320
and for anybody that was in the comments

2354
01:32:58,229 --> 01:32:55,679
that was just putting forward slightly

2355
01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:58,239
trollish things i'm not angry with you i

2356
01:33:02,470 --> 01:32:59,679
just would like to have a proper

2357
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:02,480
conversation with you rather than just

2358
01:33:06,870 --> 01:33:04,880
school ground school playground tactics

2359
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:06,880
and throwing out these words and that

2360
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:08,560
you know i ain't got time to be angry

2361
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:10,480
with you so just bear that in mind so

2362
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:12,560
guys until the next time

2363
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:14,000
thank you so much for the continued

2364
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,719
support you are so appreciated and yeah